PREMIERE: Motorists Crush the 9-5 Slog with Instant Hit "Call Control" (We Are Time/Bobo Integral)

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Toronto power-pop trio Motorists beckon summer sunshine with their new single “Call Control”, out today on We Are Time/Bobo Integral. “Call Control” is the band’s second offering from their forthcoming sophomore album Touched by the Stuff, set to release May 24th, 2024. 

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The well-crafted hit is certified a ripper from start to finish. An ode to the unglamorous grind of creatives, “Call Control” nods to musicians making ends meet at their day jobs with the hopes of hitting the big time (or simply being the second band on a local bill). Despite being a relatable anthem for the overworked and underpaid, “Call Control” beams with enough fuzzy pep to get you out of bed, morning after morning, for the rock n’ roll. 

On “Call Control”, bassist Matt Learoyd shares:

“My other songs are going for the literary award and trying to get heady with it. For this one, I wanted a song that was simple, hummable, and doesn’t get lost in the weeds with a thesaurus. It’s our attempt at a Go-Go’s style bopper that describes the powerlessness of trying to eke out a living as a working musician while knowing at the back of your mind that it probably will never be enough to have autonomy over your own future.” 

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Flush with feel-good college radio sensibility, “Call Control” is the soundtrack to blowing off steam with a smile: gas on the pedal, windows down, nowhere to go.

Want to feel the breeze and let go? Get behind the virtual wheel and experience “Call Control” to the fullest with Motorists’ interactive game, created by singer/guitarist Craig Fahner below!

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Zoë Argiropulos-Hunter (she/her) is the Co-Founder and Managing Editor of Also Cool Mag. Aside from the mag, she is a music promoter & booker, and a radio host & DJ.

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OUT TODAY: We Are Time Celebrates Anniversary with Sophomore Release "Chandra Mixtape Vol. 2"

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Artist-focused initiative and independent label We Are Time is marking its anniversary with its sophomore release Chandra Mixtape Vol. 2. The brainchild of New York’s mutant disco trailblazer Chandra Oppenheim, and everyone’s favourite Vancouver-based musician and journalist Jesse Locke, We Are Time spotlights the magic of intergenerational collaboration in contemporary music. With this new compilation, We Are Time aptly celebrates its birthday on Bandcamp Friday with a nine-track goldmine of teamwork, remixes and rarities from its roster.

The digital sampler and limited-edition cassette brings together the project’s extended family for a signature melange of eclectic sounds and experimentations. Beginning with the swelling glow of MISZCZYK and Marker Starling’s “The Leaves” and culminating in the glacial vibrations of “Not Exactly Right” from Oppenheim’s trip-hop act GNDN, Chandra Mixtape Vol. 2 unites artists across a spectrum of genres to present a boundless listening experience.

Listen to We Are Time’s Chandra Mixtape Vol. 2 below!

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Carl Schilde Channels Lost California Sound on EUROPOP (Fun In The Church)

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For each of us, life seems to lead to experiences unexpected; it can shift us from one location or another, however much that may or may not be “part of the plan”. EUROPOP, the debut solo project from Toronto-based, Berlin-born Carl Schilde, is a subversion of the cumulative expectation of “making it” as we’ve been conditioned to think. Rather than focusing on the prospect and ruminating on what could’ve been, its tone seems to bask in the fantasy poolside in the Laurel Canyon heat, already at terms with what is.

The album was recorded following a relocation to Los Angeles, California, which eventually culminated in what Schilde describes as a “disappointing experience”. It’s also a love letter to the lost records and projects of the 70s, such as overlooked post-Pet Sounds projects by The Beach Boys and the sounds of country and folk demos.

“I had a bit of a music burnout and moved to Toronto to be with my wife. I took a year to work at a brewery and not focus on music, just to have that distance,” says Schilde. “I was feeling out of time and out of place myself, so I projected that into the music by sounding like some demo from ’78 that never got heard.”

Carl Schilde. Photo courtesy of Colin Medley

EUROPOP’s mood is dream-like, woozy and thick with atmosphere, featuring deep baritone vocals by Schilde recorded in their Toronto basement. In tone and sound, the record could be compared to contemporary artists such as the late Leonard Cohen, or sonically similar to Timber Timbre’s 2014 release Hot Dreams, which was also reminiscent of heyday 60s/70s Hollywood and the spaghetti Western soundtracks of the time by Italian composers. 

The album kicks off with “Top 40”, the lead single from the album. Croons from a steel lap guitar wax and wane against a constellation of synthesizer notes in the background mix. Schilde’s lyrics seem to speak to an unnamed friend, ruminating on success and its ethereal nature:“We heard your record did well in Germany / And what’s worked there must surely work here / Let’s see if it melts in the California heat / Like a candy in a wrapper / or an apple out of reach” .

‘“It’s definitely about disappointment and dealing with that in an ironic way,” says Schilde. “It’s an elevated version of myself and it makes fun of that ego, of wanting to be successful.”

During our interview, Schilde and I discussed his curiosity for “pop music trickery”, referencing the later releases by Brian Wilson and The Beach Boys, as well as Italian soft rock records. The album’s second track, curiously titled “John Stamos”, is a deep-cut Beach Boys reference, as the Full House actor is actually a current touring member of the reformed Beach Boys.  “I’m a big Beach Boys and 70s music fan. Their sound fascinates me; [it’s] rooted in 50s doo-wop harmonies.”

EUROPOP is Schilde’s first time singing lead on a project and producing their own vocals. They remark the greatest challenge they had during the recording process was adapting their production style to fit their own vocal range. 

“The process of recording was very intertwined with the writing. You find your zone where a limited voice [range] does work and try to capture spontaneous moments. Everything I have [in my home studio] is set up for spontaneous workflow.”

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Schilde is the primary producer of the record, with some assistance from bandmates on backing instruments, and supporting vocals from Schilde’s partner that harmonize with his own. 

“Roadworn'' is a great example of Schilde’s ability to layer sounds and stack textures: phased filtered guitar tones harmonize through a cloud of static and feedback. See also “Landline” parts one and two; the latter is an instrumental highlight of the album, featuring well-stacked vocals like one long exhalation that relieves the weight from your shoulders. 

“Even two-part harmonies, like Simon and Garfunkel, there’s definitely a magic there,” says Schilde, “I think it can change meaning to the lyrics if there’s another harmony.”

The album does eventually reach cruising altitude in the latter half by the track “Phase”, which brings some welcome grand piano chords and more aggressive drums into the mix before eventually dissipating before the ephemeral ballad track, “The Master Tape”.

Schilde is well aware of the irony of the album’s title, considering the project grew from an experience in and was produced in North America. “It's definitely an ironic title. People talk about how ‘Europop is euro-trash’ … as if to say it's not real music. The record doesn’t sound like a Eurodance record [from the 70s].

Schilde also remarked how audiences and communities perceive musically differently in Europe compared to North Americans. “There’s a different sensibility,” says Schilde. “Living in North America now, I realized the only kind of music I can make is Europop, in a way. 

“I’ll always be myself […] even if it doesn’t sound like that.”

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EUROPOP

Released on February 4th, 2022 via Fun In The Church

1. Top 40

2. John Stamos

3. Roadworn

4. Soft Dads

5. Landline Pt. I

6. Landline Pt. II

7. Phase

8. The Master Tape

9. Blue Rinse

10. Credits

All tracks written, arranged and produced by Carl Schilde

Vocals, guitars, pianos, synthesizers, bass, percussion & drum machines by Carl Schilde

Additional vocals by Laura Gladwell

Drums by James Yates

Recorded and mixed by Carl Schilde at home in Toronto, Canada

Drums recorded by James Yates at Majetone HQ in Newhaven, UK

Mastered by Dave Cooley at Elysian Masters in Los Angeles, USA

Vinyl cut by Sidney Claire Meyer at Emil Berliner Studios in Berlin, Germany

Artwork design by Sebastian Schäfer

Illustrations by Judith Holzer

Super 8 footage by Carl Schilde

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Gabriel Lunn is a writer, multimedia journalist, and pop music enthusiast based out of Victoria, BC. When he isn’t trying to decipher the human condition, he can usually be found going for long runs or collecting vinyl records he really doesn’t need.

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Also Cool's FME Top Picks: Round One

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If you haven’t already heard of Quebec’s FME (Festival de musique émergente), we’re thrilled to acquaint you. Founded in 2003, FME is an annual music festival held in the beautiful town of Rouyn-Noranda and exclusively highlights independent artists. Our team is grateful to be attending this year’s edition of FME, and leading up to the festival we will be rounding up our list of must-see (and hear!) acts from the 2021 lineup (which is top-tier all around, for the record). Take a peak at our first collection of FME Top Picks below, featuring Pierre Kwenders, Lido Pimienta, Pantayo and Crabe.

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Pierre Kwenders is the stage-name of Congolese-Canadian singer-songwriter José Louis Modabi, who is somewhat of a living legend as a Juno-nominated and Polaris-longlisted after-hours king. After immigrating to Canada as a teenager, Kwenders attracted widespread attention for his guest appearance on Radio Radio’s 2012 album Havre de Grace and began releasing his own music shortly thereafter. The Montreal-based musician is celebrated for his music that “is a response to a world that so often asks people who fit comfortably in multiple boxes to pick only one.” Known for rapping and singing in multiple languages (English, French, Lingala and Tshiluba), Kwenders is also recognized for his percussive rhythms that command undeniable danceability. If you find yourself in Montreal, check out Kwenders’ after-hours Moonshine soirées, held every Saturday after the full moon in a location only disclosed via text message the day of the event. 

Pierre Kwenders will be performing at FME on September 2nd, 2021 at 7:00PM EST

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Another trailblazer on our Top Picks list is Lido Pimienta, the Afro-Indigenous, Colombian-Canadian superstar who dazzles audiences with her artistry, while simultaneously confronting systemic toxicity that permeates society at large. With the 2016 Polaris-Prize win under her belt, Pimienta is known for her mesmerizing poetry, electronic soundscapes that embrace her Afro-Indigenous traditions, and a wholeheartedly punk stage-presence and outlook.  Now based in Toronto, Pimienta also works as a visual artist and curator who explores “the politics of gender, race, motherhood, identity and the construct of the Canadian landscape in the Latin American diaspora and vernacular.” To top it off, she has of the most eye-catching performance attire and visuals we have ever seen. 

Lido Pimienta will be performing at FME on September 2nd, 2021 at 7:00PM EST

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Pantayo 

Pantayo’s 2020 self-titled debut is constantly spinning for us. This Canadian queer quintet based in Toronto is made up of members of the Filipino diaspora. Formed in 2012, Pantayo combines of kulintang —an ancient form of Southeast-Asian instrumental percussion using gongs, drums and chimes— with elements of synth-pop, punk and R&B to create infectious rhythms as a basis for their ethereal soundscapes. Named as one of NOW Magazine’s Toronto Indie Musicians to Watch in 2018, their debut LP was shortlisted for the 2020 Polaris Music Prize. The group is perhaps the first ever act to fuse the rippling effect of a gong with pop sensibilities; a feat made clear by their name, which is Tagalog for “for us.” 

Pantayo will be performing at FME on September 2nd, 2021 at 7:00PM EST

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Self-described “présent-punk” duo Crabe are constantly pushing the envelope with their aggressive, experimental sound and work ethic. Known for their energetic, chaotic live performances and a career that spans over the last 15 years, the band has played over 250 shows and are a staple in Quebec’s experimental music roster. Their most recent release Sentients is described by Mothland as “a tribute to out-of-date sounds [due to] the band offloading their traditional rock n’ roll instruments to pursue new avenues of ‘crabisme.’” Possibly making the most noise between two people, Crabe are sure to wake us up from the quarantine haze with their industrial, thrashing expansion on punk’s skeleton.

Crabe will be performing at FME on September 3rd, 2021 at 10:00PM EST

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Microtonal Punks Body Breaks Reflect on the Distance that Facilitated Their Sound

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Body Breaks, Julie Reich (left), Matt LeGroulx (right), by Natalie Logan

Before specific apps were developed to target long-distanced collaborators embracing unconventional music-making during a pandemic, DIY veterans Body Breaks were joining forces despite living in different cities. Comprised of Toronto’s Julie Reich (Bile Sister, Chandra) and Montreal’s Matt LeGroulx (EXPWY, Galaxius Mons), Body Breaks’ microtonal rock journey began in 2013 when LeGroulx meshed quarter tones (inspired by Balinese gamelan tuning) with post-punk fortitude to compose the drum-bass-guitar underpinning of what would eventually be the pair’s debut record Bad Trouble — out now on our new favourite indie label We Are Time. 

When speaking with the band, I was keen to find out how their creative processes informed each other while simultaneously working independently as Bad Trouble came together over the better part of six or so years.  

“It’s hard to recall exactly how it all came together (laughs). I know I wrote and recorded all the music and then sent it over to Julie about a year later, and that’s when she started working on her vocal parts. She did stuff that I would have never thought of! Things that would have never entered my mind; from the lyrics, to the harmonies, the vocal effects and her performance… I really loved everything she was doing. She sent me demos here and there, but for the most part I just let her take full control,” shares LeGroulx. 

“It was actually a treat to be handed these incredible songs on a platter and to be able to focus on songwriting, singing and vocal production,” responds Reich. “I took a lot of time with the lyrics, it was a conscious priority to make sure they were honest, sincere, meaningful and relatable. I knew I had the opportunity to have a message and speak from the heart. When Matt delivered the bones of Body Breaks, I was inspired to breathe life into them. I knew they were special right away and felt like I was meant to complete the missing piece of the puzzle.”

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From this comment, I ask Reich where she drew inspiration from when developing the narratives to compliment LeGroulx’s compositions. 

“With my other band, Bile Sister, I avoided literal writing or story telling because it was a stylistic choice. For Body Breaks, I felt I needed to speak my truth at the time, to penetrate and connect to anyone who would listen. For this album, I was channeling my inner glam. I was thinking about Lou Reed and David Bowie, Divine, Jayne County, The Fall, Pink Noise and so many others. I consciously was aware of the male presence in the inspiration as well, with the intention to create a place where I would see myself represented in this world. Bad Trouble is a very special example of this inspiration. Each song speaks my truth at the time, as a struggling artist filled with self doubt, as a woman outsider in her own generation, dealing with aging, insomnia, questioning the purpose of employment and how to be happy, thinking about my generation and the entitlement therein, words of advice to a younger me, making peace after betrayal from an ex, and stories of coping, being down and out. We've all been there. I wanted people to hear what I was saying, I wanted to not rely on a lot of effects, I wanted the voice to be clear and heard, flaws and all… After all, flaws are what make us beautiful and unique,” articulates Reich.

I then turn to LeGroulx to hear his thoughts on watching his songs transform from something he worked on alone, to with a friend, to a now fully realized project; recognizing the really interesting and unique relationship he has with the tracks that formed Bad Trouble. 

“I never take that much time to do anything (laughs)! I tend to rush things, generally. When I’m working on a project; after a month into working, I’m kind of sick of it and want to move on to the next thing. So, in comparison to everything else I’ve done music wise, I’ve had the chance to live with these songs and see them transform,” reflects LeGroulx. “Throughout the process of Julie recording her vocal parts, every new song she would send me would become my favourite one. Every year that passed as the project developed I saw it get stronger and stronger as a record.” 

Along with their striking sound, Body Breaks also have a noticeable visual identity as a band. I was especially curious about the band’s creation of worlds to accompany their album; particularly those depicted in their surreal “Eyes to Brightness” video, which spotlights animations by Reich. 

“I love to create worlds just like I love to create identities, it’s an escape and a means to have a sense of control in a chaotic world,” chimes in Reich. “When I created the music video for “Eyes to Brightness,” maybe in 2016 I think, I had just started working with 3D animation software and I have grown a lot since making that video. Aesthetically, in other videos I have created, I speak to the theme of nature versus technology and our environmental crisis. “Eyes to Brightness” is an early attempt to create a world with this focus. Visually, I tend to focus on creating a stark reality, a vision of a new planet in the future, with remnants of planet Earth intermingled with natural elements floating and defying laws of gravity.  Our norms can be flipped upside down to the point even gravity doesn't exist. Anything you can fathom is possible. Consider this for good but also as a warning.” 

While the band’s take on day-to-day existentialism makes them stand-out, their partnership has acted as a lifeline when it comes to confronting the future’s uncertainty, especially for musicians.

“So we've been separated for quite some time now, and I can't see it being a full band thing until, you know, obviously the world looks a little bit more normal than it does right now. You’ve got to hope things get better. While it’s hard to stay hopeful when you look at the news everyday, the whole experience of Body Breaks has been a huge bright spot,” says LeGroulx. “The team at We Are Time, our label, are wonderful to work with and Julie is a wonderful bandmate. So, these songs have come to mean so much more to me than the initial tinkering they once were.”

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Zoë Argiropulos-Hunter (she/her) is the co-founder and managing editor of Also Cool Mag. Aside from the mag, she is a music promoter & booker, and a radio host & DJ.

This interview was conducted via Zoom and partially over email and has been condensed and edited for clarity.

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Toronto's Indie Jangle-Pop Duo Ducks Ltd. Release "How Lonely Are You?" (Carpark Records / Royal Mountain Records)

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It's getting to that point of the summer where it feels like all you can do is contemplate your life with your friends over some wine on a rooftop, wondering if and when things will ever get better. Discussing what we can collectively do to help, wondering if anything we do will make a difference at all, staring into the sunset, all while listening to indie jangle-pop. 

Lucky for you, Toronto's Ducks Ltd.'s new single How Lonely Are You? is the perfect soundtrack for your mildly existential end-of-summer playlist. It's a follow-up to probably one of my favourite singles of the year, 18 Cigarettes. The single comes in anticipation of their debut album "Modern Fiction," which is set to release on Carpark Records / Royal Mountain Records on October 1st, 2021.

I had a chance to catch up with the band about Toronto's music scene, their upcoming album, and more.

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Malaika Astorga for Also Cool: Hi! Let's start at the beginning; you two met at a Dilly Dally show. How did you first get into that kind of music scene, and how do you think it's impacted your creative trajectory?

Ducks Ltd: I don't totally know to be honest! I was reaching back, trying to remember something that feels like an entry point of the first show or conversation. I think I first got into stuff in Toronto by going to what were mostly noise shows at a Senegalese restaurant in Kensington Market and playing in bands who played at that same Senegalese restaurant. It feels like it all happened very naturally once it started happening, though there were definitely a couple years when I first moved here where I was interested in playing music but couldn't really figure out what the "scene" was or how to get involved with it.

It's definitely been hugely impactful for me, though. In some not insignificant ways, getting involved in Toronto music completely changed the path of my life. I don't think I would still be seriously making music at all were it not for the people I have met in it. There's also something really helpful for my writing process in being in environments where people are doing and making interesting things. Not even directly picking anything up from them necessarily, but I'll often find the initial seed of something that becomes a song when I'm at a show watching another band. I don't really know how or why, but it will kinda knock something loose for me creatively. 

Also Cool: What's the Toronto music scene like now? I know that amidst the rampant gentrification, many venues and projects have suffered, but I'm hopeful that there's still some DIY spirit leftover. 

DL: It's sort of hard to say because there haven't been shows in so long, but I'm cautiously optimistic based on the way things were feeling in 2019 and the stuff I've been able to keep up with while everyone was apart. People tend to get all doom and gloom about it in ways that I often don't think really bear up to scrutiny (complaining about Toronto constantly is one of Toronto's more unfortunate cultural traits!), but the broader trajectory feels positive. 

When I started being involved in music stuff here, the scene felt very cliquey, separated quite sharply along micro-genre lines. It was almost like a series of small scenes bumping up against each other, but pretty homogenous despite those delineations. I don't want to sound utopian or triumphant, as many things could and should be better, but I think overall, the scene is way more diverse and varied now. People support each other and collaborate more than they used to and are generally kinder. I think the artists are also, on the whole, more successful, both artistically and in terms of finding their audiences in the world outside the city, which is probably at least partly related to them being kinder and supporting each other. 

I don't want to dismiss or minimize the problems of gentrification, which are obviously really significant issues with consequences that go way beyond music scene stuff. I guess I just don't really connect romantic notions about the Toronto scene of the recent past. It's definitely far from perfect now, but it feels like the music scene here is more inclusive than it used to be, and I think that can only be a good thing. 

AC: You speak about "the courage to go on," which I think everyone is in need of right now. How do you find that courage for yourself, and where do you see it in others?

DL: Oh, I lack it almost completely! It's very much in my nature to give up and collapse into hopelessness at the first sign of adversity, though obviously, this is something I try to curb. Maybe I admire it so much because I don't always see it in myself. Still, I think that hope, and a sort of stubbornness of purpose when things are bleak, are some of the most beautiful human qualities. 

I've been helping out a little with an organization in Toronto called the Encampment Support Network that formed over the pandemic. I think it's a quality that animates many of the people who are the driving force in that organization and also in many of the residents of the encampments. Any city or society, especially one as wealthy as this one, should be ashamed to have put unhoused people in this situation. Many of them spent the entire winter outside living in tents, and the governmental response to it has been to compound their initial callous indifference with intentional cruelty. It's such a bad and stupid situation that feels more or less intractable absent a complete change in the composition of the civic and provincial governments. But then the people involved in ESN work so hard for whatever little ways they can find to make the lives of their unhoused neighbours better, and the residents work so hard just to survive. They're so resourceful and brave and put up with so much bullshit that they meet with humour and optimism an amazing amount of the time. I mean, some of them are total assholes too, but you know, not as bad as John Tory!

AC: You're both big fans of niche 80s indie-pop labels. For those who may not be familiar, what are some of your favourite labels and bands of that era?

DL: I think the Go-Betweens are a big one for both of us. Evan introduced me to the band, and they're now one of my favourites. I really love The Verlaines a lot. It didn't end up working out, but we got in touch with Graeme Downes from that band to talk about him potentially arranging some strings for the album, which was really cool! He was super generous with his time and willing to discuss songwriting with me a bit which was wild as he's truly one of my favourite songwriters! I also really love McCarthy, a Marxist jangle-pop band whose members later went on to form Stereolab. Close Lobsters are another one who are a big deal for me. Foxheads Stalk This Land might be one of the two or three best jangle-pop records ever made, I think. 

AC: I've been asking a lot of people this question lately, maybe out of a need for optimism, but I'm curious what your idealist vision of the future might look like?

DL: Ah boy! That's a tough one to answer in this format. In the interest of concision, I'm just gonna go with full communism!

AC: I love the sound of the album because it makes me feel like I'm drinking wine with friends on a rooftop somewhere in the summertime, about to go out for the night. How do you hope that people will experience your music?

DL: That sounds like an excellent context! I'm not sure the context is something I've given much thought to, really. It's extremely cool and a little overwhelming that people are listening to it at all. I feel like it could maybe be good driving music? I don't know! Thanks for listening to it, though!

AC: Lastly, what are your plans for 2021?

DL: We've got a few shows coming up, which is exciting, and we just started rehearsing with the full band again, which has felt amazing after not doing it for so long. We're hoping to get on the road a little more next year too, and we're gonna do some UK shows. We've got a few more unreleased things recorded that we might put out, and we've been talking about doing a covers EP. I just really want to set myself up with an opportunity to sing "Head On." Hopefully, Evan will indulge me in this! 

If you love Ducks Ltd. as much as we do, be sure to catch them IRL at FME this year on September 3rd I Buy tickets

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Toronto's New Chance Makes Existentialism Danceable on New Album "Real Time"

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New Chance (Victoria Cheong), shot by Yuula Benivolski

Toronto’s New Chance (Victoria Cheong) has joined the roster over at new indie label We Are Time with the release of her new LP Real Time. A long time collaborator of artists like Lido Pimienta, Jennifer Castle, post-punk icon Chandra and reggae legend Willi Williams, Cheong creates meditative electronic pop soundscapes that are suitable for unwinding from day-job restlessness as well as surrendering to the hum of a late-night dancefloor. On her latest offering Real Time, Cheong brings her reflections on nature’s abstract cycles to the forefront, between spellbinding textures and an eclectic sampling of everything from Calypso percussion to a sunrise rooster crow. We caught up with Cheong on how she wrestles with profound existential questions within the scope of her ever-changing creative outlets.

Zoë Argiropulos-Hunter for Also Cool: Something that struck me while reading about Real Time was that the album artwork is a photo of your grandfather’s. Can you tell me more about this picture and the role it plays in the context of Real Time as a whole? 

Victoria Cheong: I was really inspired by these scrapbooks I have of my grandfathers that are filled with photos of his garden, pictures of garden shows and cutouts from newspapers and magazines about plants. They’re beautiful and I was moved by being able to see through his eyes, in a way. During the pandemic, these hobby scrapbooks were are around me and I found myself flipping through the pages. Eventually, I ended up reworking some of his photographs into the album artwork. The image I chose [for the album’s cover] of the night blooming cactus is a great metaphor for the themes of this record; cycles of time and nature. There’s a kind of patrilineal connection creeping into the record, which I totally didn’t set out to do… but the “father energy” just came about organically in a way that fit perfectly with some of the ideas I was mediating on.

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Real Time album artwork by Jackson Cheong, Gord Cheong and Victoria Cheong

Also Cool: It’s so interesting that the photo ended up informing the work in such an unexpected way. To riff off of you mentioning temporality: You move through different spaces on this album, both in a temporal sense, but also in an emotional sense. I don’t want to use the word “tensions” to describe what you’re working with here because it sometimes carries a negative connotation, but you’ve mentioned reconciling with people’s’ relationships with nature, for example, or our existence in relation to “time” and the feelings that can bring about. Where does the song forming process start for you when you’re reckoning with society’s positions on these immense topics? 

Victoria Cheong: I definitely tend to be more beat-driven for sure. A lot of the lyrical content in my work is basically a stream of consciousness, like diary-style venting and questioning of the world around me (laughs). I like turning ideas around in my mind and kind of puzzling over things, like my observations on life and so on. I tend to be an experimenter and tinker with different things, despite having no set format for how I work. I like to collect sounds and put them together. So, for example, I might follow a rhythm or vocal melody, zoom in on that, and see what builds from there. Most of my songs are sampler-based, which really allows for this kind of collage-y process. The sampler has definitely informed a lot of my music-making up until now!

That said, during the pandemic the way I usually work was totally turned on its head because half the songs were written pre-COVID, which meant I had to reevaluate my workflow when the world around me became so different. So, I found that once I had the vision that I was going to finish the record, it shifted the way I was creating. I became way more intentional and deliberate in terms of songwriting towards the end of this process, which was a new development in my otherwise “loose” approach. 

AC: Can you place when or where that shift in direction might have come from? 

VC: I don’t think I can pinpoint it! To tell you the truth, I’ve never dedicated the space and time entirely towards making a record, so being absorbed in the process was a welcomed change. In the past, I would juggle working and performing and make songs here and there, with a lack of focus. Once I could slow down and get in the headspace to concentrate on my own work, that lent itself to, you know, all the aspects of musical production, writing and so on.  

AC: It’s funny that you say that, because I think that really comes through on your vocal performance on this record. Knowing that you are a background vocalist for several acts, what inspired you to take on a more forward approach with your singing and lyrics with Real Time? 

VC: I think it comes from enough experience with performing. Backup singing has definitely helped me figure out how to embody lyrics and sing words that aren’t my own, while also expressing them in a meaningful way. It’s also informed my confidence for sure. I’ve learned how to nurture my main instrument, my voice, over the years, and I suppose working alone [during the pandemic] let my confidence take over.

AC: I’ve never really thought about backup singing like that before; in a sense that you’re taking on someone else’s words and you have to mean it. Even though this record is, of course, coming first and foremost from your perspective wholly, are there any versions of “Victoria” that you’ve worked with throughout conceptualizing and realizing Real Time? In other words, would you say you’ve embodied other sides of yourself and how have you wrestled with that experience if so?

VC: You mean my relationship with my different selves? 

AC: Yeah, exactly! 

VC: Now that this record is out, I feel like it acts as a type of ending for me actually! In a true sense, it offers closure on a period of my life and a new beginning. As an artist, I’m steering my ship in a bit of a different direction in terms of trying new things, and definitely shedding versions of my “past selves” and some of the creative habits that I held onto.

AC: When you say trying new things; were you taking up any kind of new musical experiments or exploring paths that you hadn’t gone down with your music before? Other than the intentionality with your vocal performance that we talked about before, of course. 

VC: Hmm… different paths. Well, my track “Two Pictures” is the only song on the album that features another person, Karen Ng, who plays saxophone. We were working on a recording session for a completely different project when I started directing some improvised scores and recorded Karen’s playing. I then built [“Two Pictures”] entirely off of that improv session, so what you hear on the record an improvised sample that was created completely separate from the song… before it even existed (laughs)! 

So, that was a path that I want to continue working on. I’d like to improvise with other musicians and manipulate those collaborations, as in creating songs around them or editing them or whatever! Creating improvisational scores that are more conceptual is definitely more exciting to me rather than actually writing out music… which I don’t really know how to do anyways (laughs). 

AC: To ask a more standard question, what inspirations did you bring to the table in this album? I keep thinking about the collage concept you touched on before, and I’d love it if you could zone in on some of its elements. 

VC: Hmm, well there really is a whole medley! I’m, of course, always curious to tune into backing vocals because they have been all over the place over the decades and I find that they are all I ever hear now as someone who sings backup vocals. Something that did come up in terms of inspiration was actually Bobby McFerrin’s “Don’t Worry Be Happy.” It’s a big song from my childhood, but it really inspires me because all of the instrumentation is just vocals! That whole record is amazing.

AC: Wow, that never occurred to me until just now! 

VC: Yeah! It’s so cool what is possible with voices. In terms of other inspirations, Jennifer Castle, Leonard Cohen, Bob Marley and the Whalers, as well as modern day R&B for its uplifting instrumentation come about in my work, too.

AC: Perhaps this is a bit of a painful question to end off on, but since so much of this project is in your hands and the world is starting to look more like the “before-times”: Do you have any idea of how you’d like to share Real Time, in well, real time (laughs)? 

VC: Well, I think I will let [the record] transform into a new experience for me. I need to figure out how to pay it live and how to share it in that way. I’ll keep working and looking and other ways to create and share music while trying out some of those different creative paths I mentioned before!  

Listen to Real Time below!

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Mindfulness and Magic: How Nyssa Has Been Keeping Busy During the Pandemic

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Toronto-based musician Nyssa has been writing and performing songs since she was 12 years old, with her musical influences covering a wide range of generations and a plethora of musical genres. These sources of inspiration are clear in her 2020 album Girls Like Me, an insightful exploration of gender-based expectations that dips between post-punk and glam rock, incorporating hints of folk in its more reflective moments. Girls Like Me was recently nominated for the 2021 Polaris Long List, and we are keeping our fingers crossed for Nyssa. We got the chance to catch up with Nyssa to chat about rock n’ roll storytelling, dream journaling and working with Meg Remy of U.S. Girls on her latest track.

Spencer Nafekh for Also Cool: Hi Nyssa! As an introductory question, I was curious if you could say a little bit more about your artist name? I looked a little more into the name “Nyssa,” and the first thing that came up was a Wikipedia page for a Doctor Who character. Is this where you’ve gotten the name from?

Nyssa: Actually, Nyssa is my birth name! I’m of Irish and Scottish descent, but my mom read the name in a book and really appreciated it. Apparently it’s ancient Greek for “a new beginning,” and there’s also the bonus of the Doctor Who character, an ewok in the Star Wars universe, and a tree found in North America. I figured that because I have a first name that sounds like a “one name” thing, I would use it as a stage-name. This puts a healthy pressure on me not to let myself down, because at the end of the day, I don’t want to change my name: I’ve got something to live up to.

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Also Cool: Personally, I find that Girls Like Me is an album with a uniquely cool post-punk sound to it - I hear hints of bands like The Cure and Bauhaus. I’d like to take this opportunity to pop in a “generic music question”: What kind of music did you listen to growing up? What inspires you now, and are there any artists or albums that you’ve heard as of lately and just absolutely need to put people onto?

N: Growing up, my mom and dad both separately listened to a lot of rock n’ roll. My mom was a big Rolling Stones fan, so that was a big presence in the house; same with Neil Young, Elvis, Johnny Cash, Liz Phair, Lucinda Williams, and Sinéad O'Connor. I’ve been thinking about this recently, and it’s funny how all my favourite artists from childhood that my mom introduced me to are still essentially my favourite artists: Lucinda Williams’ Car Wheels on a Gravel Road and Liz Phair’s Exile in Guyville are still two of my favourite albums of all time.

With Girls Like Me, I was basically trying to make my own version of storytelling rock n’ roll without using traditional rock n’ roll instrumentation; relying more heavily on Ableton and sample work, and not so much on guitar. I wanted to incorporate influences like Bruce Springsteen, and fuse rock n’ roll with soul and country music. It’s hard to put into words, but I’ve always been attracted to squishy, fuzzy, and crunchy sounds. My background in garage rock informs that, but I didn’t want Girls Like Me to sound like garage rock at all. Having access to samples and the ability to manipulate them was what really allowed me to get the unique sound that I was looking for.

AC: Would you say that your latest track “It's A Nice World To Visit (But Not To Live In)” is a direct response to the pandemic lifestyle? It seems different from your previous works, in terms of its slow buildup and its spooky synth-pop vibe… Do you see this track as an experimental anomaly or does it mark a transition in the vibe of the music you want to make?

N: My song is actually a loose cover of this 60’s Lee Hazlewood and Ann-Margret song; a real crazy garage rock anthem that I was first drawn to in high school and “squirreled away” for later use. My friend Lex—who is one of the owners of Fuzzed and Buzzed— initially approached me about doing a single for a compilation that they were planning. His neighbor is Meg Remy of U.S. Girls, so that got the ball rolling on the production of the track. Next thing you know, I was in the studio with Meg and a bunch of other musicians, and although Meg oversaw most of the session, “It's A Nice World To Visit (But Not To Live In)” was the song that she really stepped on board to produce. The whole process was very freeform: it was mainly me and drummer, Jay Anderson, jamming it out. 

I wouldn’t say that “It's A Nice World To Visit (But Not To Live In)” is totally an anomaly, though. I see myself walking down a number of musical paths in the future, and one of them is darker, and more surreal. It was recorded pre-pandemic, but it feels very… “pandemic friendly.” (laughs)

AC: I’ve noticed the “dreamscapes” series that you post on your socials from time to time. Whether it’s work from Flemish Renaissance painter Pieter Bruegel the Elder, photographs from the children’s picture book iSpy, or shots from that crazy fantasy movie The Adventures of Baron Munchausen, it appears as though you like sharing grandiose landscapes and pleasantly ethereal scenes. I was curious whether this aesthetic was something you try to mimic in your music, or is it something that you admire from a visual standpoint?

N: Because I’ve been so confined to my apartment these days, I find myself thinking about these dreamscapes and scenes from childhood… Worlds that I inhabited as a weird only child. To be honest, Girls Like Me is an album that I wrote over the course of a couple of years when I was waiting tables and living my life. Things obviously just feel very different these days, and I think that sharing these “dreamscapes” encapsulates everything that I’ve been doing over the past year, and the stuff I’m writing now.

On the topic of my more recent habits, I’ve also started doing this thing called “active imagination,” a Jungian technique which works like guided meditation. You’re supposed to enter your own dream world and just see what happens, or what your mind is trying to communicate to you. I find this has been helping me open my unconscious mind, and the dreamscapes that I have shared recently have been really informing that whole practice, which feeds into my writing as well!

AC: Sounds interesting! It seems like you have been keeping yourself busy in these strange times, exercising retrospectivity and imagination. Would you say that the pandemic has had a positive impact on your creative process, or a negative one?

N: Definitely positive. I’m part of this songwriting group with some friends in New York, and so I’ve had the pressure of writing a new song every week. This has been hugely important to me, and it wouldn’t have happened if we weren't thrown into this whole ordeal.

I’m really thankful for these exercises in creativity, which have resulted in my thoughts being much more magical. There’s going to be a very witchy album coming out post-COVID, that’s for sure.

Since we’re on the topic of creative practices, I should mention that another thing I’ve been doing is logging entries into a dream journal… It’s been beyond satisfying. It is so fulfilling to be able to look back over your dreams over a given period of time, and to notice patterns or recurring themes. I would recommend this practice to anyone and everyone.

AC: I think it would take a certain level of dedication to maintain a dream journal. Personally, I’ve tried a few times but can never fully commit to it. Have you ever had any lucid dreams? Also, I don’t want you to do anything that you’re uncomfortable with… But. is there any chance you would be willing to share an entry from the journal?

N: Trust me, I’ve tried this dream journal idea on multiple occasions but this is the first time that I’ve stuck with it. It takes patience, for sure, but don’t give up! Also, you don’t need to have a full dream in order to log it. Even if you remember a small tidbit of information, it is still worth logging. I’ve honestly never been too interested in lucid dreaming, because I think there’s a special quality about something totally untainted coming from your subconscious. Because the Otherworld is attempting to speak to you, I think it makes sense to not hold onto your ego, let things happen and go with the flow.

And you know what? Sure, why not… I’ll share an entry. 

—Nyssa goes off-camera for a moment and returns with her dream journal—

Hmm… I eat seafood… Lots of beaches… Okay, here’s a weird one that sounds like a real fairytale archetype:

“An old wizard at sea, travelling the land and performing illusions as a bat in exchange for sanctuary. Islanders with red caps accept the deal, watching as he performs the final illusion. Noah’s Ark arising from the sea, at first afar and then up close. The ark opens like a sea monster with many teeth. The wizard emerges in-mouth and proclaims, ‘and now you shall offer me shelter whenever I ask.’”

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Our conversation quickly transitions into movie territory, and I soon learn that Nyssa is a big horror movie buff. “I like violent movies,” Nyssa says, “but not when it’s too realistic or unnecessary.” Among her favourite movies, the 1985 horror-comedy Return of the Living Dead has a special place in her heart. “It really just ticks every box,” she tells me. “I love the practical effects, the gore, the punks in the cemetery… it has everything.” Thinking of what she’s watched recently, Nyssa talks about her new fascination with the surreal films of Alejandro Jodorowsky, as well as The Secret of Roan Inish.

What stood out to me more than anything, though, were the ways in which Nyssa has harnessed creativity during this strange time; the mystical planes and otherworldly dreamscapes where she has situated herself as of late. By the end of our chat, we digress into a conversation about the intersection between religion and spirituality. When I explain to her my belief that dreams and music are the closest that humans can come to magical experiences, she passionately agrees. “Absolutely,” Nyssa says, “and I think that the oldest human beings would agree with you on that. At the end of the day, it all comes down to mindfulness and magic.”

I’m really looking forward to seeing what Nyssa puts out next, which may or may not be a darker and witchier album that releases post-COVID. In the meantime, Girls Like Me has been released on a limited edition vinyl and is readily available for order online.

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Toronto's PACKS Share a Slice of Upcoming Debut "Take the Cake"

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Toronto’s PACKS are filling an indie-rock void with their sound that is equal parts laid-back and jangly, while also sophisticatedly pensive and bright. Before the pandemic hit, they were stirring a buzz with a collection of charming lo-fi singles, of which caught the attention of hometown label Royal Mountain Records, as well as Brooklyn’s Fire Talk Records.

With the enlisted backup of close friends from the band Lovers Touch, lead songwriter Madeline Link has taken her solo songwriting project to the next level. The now four-piece have announced the release of their debut full-length, Take the Cake, out this coming Friday, May 21st, 2021.

On Take the Cake, Link comments:

“The album is a meeting of old and new. Old songs from a year ago where I'm having really horrifyingly awful days at work, getting doored while biking in Toronto and flying into the middle of the street, or going on dates with guys who I'm either instantly in love with, or who end up creeping me out a bit. Those songs are more packed with that feeling of hurtling-through-time-and-space-at-breakneck-speed, manic energy. The newer songs are infused with a foggier, slower-paced disillusionment, and deal with the strangeness of a reality morphing before my eyes every day. I still try to be optimistic obviously, but these songs are really glorified coping mechanisms.”

Read our interview with Link on how her debut was realized despite a long-distance relationship with her band, as well as her thoughts on unexpected musical comparisons and figuring out label-signing for the first time.

Zoë Argiropulos-Hunter for Also Cool: So, let’s start with some bigger obvious questions: How have you been doing and what has it been like working on an album throughout the ongoing uncertainty of the last year or so? What are your thoughts on creating during such a time?

Madeline Link: Well, other than working on the album at a distance with my band by sending them demos to build on, my music writing process hasn’t been disturbed by the pandemic much. The creation of [this album] was the least hard part, honestly. It was more so the conceptualizing of it that was tough because the whole process lacked so many physical experiences. I have never released an album of this scale before, so I feel like if it wasn’t a pandemic it would be a completely different experience. I would be having in-person meetings, maybe even going to New York to meet with one of my labels, planning shows and going on tour.

Also Cool: Absolutely, music-making right now is definitely unconventional to say the least. What it was like realizing these songs in a band format instead of working alone? From what I know, some of the tracks on Take the Cake are older than others and come from a more personal project, so I’d love to know more about how you reworked them on this release.

Madeline Link: I’d never bounced these songs off of anyone before, so it was interesting! I felt comfortable sharing them with these guys specifically because I trusted them a lot, as we were friends before we worked together on this album. They make up the band Lovers Touch, so I really trusted their musical ability and knew how talented they were. I really like the symbiosis we have going. With every song that I bring to them, they always send something back that totally surprises me.

AC: What else impacted your ability to be so open-minded with making PACKS into a more collaborative project?

ML: I’ve always used my songs as a way of exploring creatively and have never held them very close. Basically, my creative process is that I’ll record myself playing the song once I’ve figured out the guitar part and vocals and send it off to the band without really thinking twice about it. Since I never hold my songs near and dear, there are a lot of tracks currently in our shared folder that are just sitting there festering… ‘Cause you know, I like to have some shit songs and some good songs (laughs).

AC: I think that’s really cool. I guess there’s something to be said for being purposefully un-purposeful (laughs).

ML: Yeah, that’s exactly it! If I think a song isn’t going to get better, I’ll quit toying around with it. I pretty much spend an hour to two hours recording my parts in my free time and send them off to the band.

AC: I know you said that you’ve never held your work close, but has working with some of these songs in a new light changed the relationship you have with them? Or maybe the way you think about your songwriting at all?

ML: I really liked taking the songs and meshing them together; both old and new. I didn’t have any huge revelations about my songwriting, but I do feel as though I’ve really landed on a sound that lines-up with my identity. At the same time, I do think I’m keeping people guessing with what exactly a PACKS song sounds like. For example, when “Hangman” came out at first, I saw it on a Spotify “Americana” playlist, and I was getting labeled as “indie-folk” (laughs). But then “Silvertongue” came out and it was on all these punk playlists online.

AC: How do you feel about being segmented into these different genres? I’ve seen your stuff coming up on different publications where people have compared you everything from Sonic Youth to Sebadoh. Are there any particular influences that you draw from that people aren’t necessarily picking up on?

ML: Well, I remember thinking that Best Coast was a strange comparison that one writer made because I personally don’t hear it at all. I remember reading that and I thinking to myself, “Are you just saying this because I’m a lady?” (laughs). No offense to Best Coast or anything, but I really don’t hear any similarities.

 ML: In terms of influences… This is going to sound so obvious, but every Radiohead album has probably weaseled its way into a PACKS song. Hmm… do you know Autolux?

AC: No. I’ve never heard of them!

ML: They’re this band from the early 2000s that I’m really into. They have this one particular album, Future Perfect, that really grabbed me. They’ve got this really hard guitar sound contrasting with the singer’s quiet falsetto voice and I love that. What else? I do find I can be influenced by country as well. I grew up in Calgary and we always had so many different genres playing in the house. I find myself always going back to the basic chord structures that make up country and blues songs when I start writing. I want to follow certain tenants of that genre, you know?

AC: Definitely. So, it’s safe to say that these questions of who influences you have come from you signing to two well-known labels and stirring up some excitement around Take the Cake. How are you finding this transition in your career so far?  

ML: Deciding whether or not to sign to a label was one of the hardest decisions I’ve ever made; not even exaggerating! On one hand, you have a lot of people encouraging you take on a new opportunity, and on the other, people warning you of what might happen if things don’t turn out like you’d expected. That being said, when I did announce that I had signed to these labels, nobody was like, “You freaking sell-out!” (laughs) To be honest, I have really enjoyed having the support from these labels and all of their great ideas. But you know, I don’t give away my power very easily (laughs). This might sound cheesy, but thankfully both the labels I’m working with have the artist as their number one priority. I still have control over everything I post online, music videos… stuff like that.

AC: What kind of advice would you give to young musicians to help them navigate the process of working with a label for the first time? I feel like getting this kind of insider information is really important for people just starting out, and the kind of thing that can be gatekept, you know?

ML: Yeah, definitely. Well, I don’t really like giving advice (laughs) but okay. So, the fist label I ever worked with was, and still is to this day, the number one label in the entire world. They’re called Art of the Uncarved Block. They’re based in Toronto and run by twin brothers Robin and Pete. I didn’t sign a single contract while working with them, we just met up in a coffee shop after they asked [my other band Triples] if we wanted to release a tape with them. I also released a PACKS tape with them, and it was like, the dreamiest label experience you could have.

So, I’d say if you’re just starting out and doing a DIY thing, I would suggest not running into a contract straight away and working with a smaller label. If music is something you’re doing just for fun, don’t submit your stuff to huge labels. If you’re enjoying yourself and just trying to get your music out into your local scene or whatever, [labels] will notice that, and they will approach you. Treating it like a job application and not getting responses after making a bunch of submissions makes you feel like shit! (laughs)

AC: I think that’s good advice, personally. The Canadian music world seems so untouchable on the surface, when at the end of the day it’s like the same 10 people emailing each other back and forth.

ML: Exactly. You really just have to trust the process in a way. I ran into Pete from Uncarved Block when I was trying to decide about label stuff, and he encouraged me to go for it… It was kind of like a sign from the universe.

AC: To end things off, what are your plans to celebrate this release?

ML: When I was going to bed the other night, I had this idea for a wild Instagram video… I’m picturing a gigantic cake in front of me that’s full of candles. Like, 200 candles or something. And yeah… I want to do something that’s kind of unreal. Maybe I’ll post it? Maybe I’ll keep it for my personal archives? You’ll just have to wait and see.

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TAKE THE CAKE

Out May 21, 2021 via Royal Mountain Records and Fire Talk

1. Divine Giggling
2. Clingfilm
3. Two Hands
4. New TV
5. Hangman
6. My Dream
7. Hold My Hand
8. Holy Water
9. Silvertongue
10. Blown By The Wind
11. U Can Wish All U Want

All songs by Madeline Link
Mastered by Sarah Register

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Out Today: Dorothea Paas Curbs Expectation with Debut LP "Anything Can’t Happen"

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To some, pursuing creativity is at best, money-making, and at worst, awkward and a best-kept secret. In either case, some kind of sacrifice is needed to “make it make sense” — you either sell out (gasp!), or give up on your dreams entirely to please others; maybe even yourself. We’ve all seen some iteration of this scenario:

“You’re going to be an artist? Have fun with that,” or; “You’re going to be an artist? How dare you try make a name for yourself!” (assuming your endeavors “work out” in some capacity)

The latter is especially rife within DIY circles, where settling for second-best has become the norm when push comes to shove, seeing as comfort is far too often associated with complacency in the art world, sigh.

Amidst all of this artistic turmoil, there is the “in-between” (which, by the way, isn’t any more or less secure). More often than not, this in-between looks like side-gigging your passions to make ends meet, because at the end of the day, bills have to be paid. That being said, there are some artists who navigate and wade in this liminality with grace and use it as a means of figuring out life’s many curveballs with a certain finesse; often times to their creative advantage.

Toronto singer-songwriter Dorothea Paas molds the perfect example of what achievements can come with taking things slow, especially in an industry that can wring you dry. On her new LP Anything Can’t Happen — out today via Telephone Explosion Records — Paas illuminates how she came to define success as encountering and reconciling self-discovery through her work, all while establishing growth on her own terms. The result is a folk-rock chrysalis composed of nine introspections on the self that have bloomed with Paas over the years.

Charmingly, Paas labels herself as an emerging artist, even though she really is anything-but. Over the last decade, she has lent her talents as a vocalist and guitarist to notable acts like Jennifer Castle and U.S. Girls, amid refining her solo skills in songwriting, recording and performing. In my conversation with Paas, she explains that her humility towards her work has been informed by the necessary embrace of the aforementioned “in-between”:

“I’ve never placed severe creative expectations on myself. I’ve always worked other jobs, and I feel like I will continue to work other jobs,” shares Paas in our Zoom call.  “Even though my work now feels a bit more polished, allowing things to grow organically has taken some of the pressure off my writing and performances. Maybe it’s avoidant of me, but imagining music as my main source of income doesn’t feel sustainable. Maybe I need to think more about where I want this to go, or how to become a star? But for now, I like not being pulled by the concept of fame or being known for the sake of being known.”

Paas’ modest approach to musicianship has allowed her songs to take on many forms, from lo-fi cassette-deck hums to electrified folk whirlpools; filling both grapevine-invited house shows and downtown hotspots. This makes Anything Can’t Happen more mature than a classic debut, and has allowed Paas to develop a unique and intimate relationship with her craft.

“Not being a prolific songwriter lets me revisit old songs and slowly accumulate my repertoire. I like that I get to reevaluate their meanings as I grow; while listening to new music and getting new inspirations and thinking about how I want to channel my songwriting instincts.”

Being in this ongoing state of reflection and transformation has allowed Paas’ music to equally inform her personal life while processing and healing from “years of ruminating on loneliness, anxiety, sadness, love and relationships.”

“I don't think writing lyrics is my strong suit, but sometimes I channel literal pages of my journal to write a song. I’ve always been very intellectually in-touch with my feelings, and I feel like it isn't until I take a journal entry and turn it into a song that I realize how deeply affected I am by a situation I’m going through. Over time, I’ve gotten a better insight on my past, and I understand more how an audience or a listener might be hit by a sentiment.”

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Knowing that having my journal read to an audience would be my own personal hell, I ask Paas how she incorporates this level of vulnerability into her songwriting.

“In a generic sense, I feel like there has been a weird double-bind when it comes to diaristic writing for women songwriters. I feel like there is both a stereotype that women are expected to ‘write this way,’ but also for us to not write about diaristic things and challenge expectations? I don't know how to explain it, really, but I’ve just felt this weird external pressure to change the way I write to be more abstract. That being said, I think there is something very powerful about writing your own experiences really plainly. I do think that it is a strength of my work in many ways.”

Coupled with her intention to balance improvisation and construction in her songwriting, Paas’ candid lyricism extends a level of intimacy to the listener that she says conjures “a very specific feeling.”

“I don't think [my lyrics] are vulnerable in the sense that I'm like, sharing my most embarrassing thoughts. That's what Twitter is for. Actually, I feel deeply humiliated by my Twitter and I'm actively trying to stop writing embarrassing things on there,” Paas laughs. “My lyrics are more like diamonds that have been forged through years of therapy and introspection and conversations with my friends… the final by-products of condensing thought. If they’re communicated clearly, they can heighten the sonic elements of what music can do, which is create a shared sense of euphoria and connection.”

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Towards the end of our conversation, Paas notes that she feels honoured to write songs that can connect to audiences and actualize the viscerality of the difficult emotions we all experience. “There’s something about being the writer and the vessel for [these feelings] that inspires me. I click into another mode and it’s very uplifting.”

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Anything Can’t Happen is out on Telephone Explosion Records today, May 7th, 2021.  Paas will be performing at this year’s Megaphono festival and showcase, taking place virtually from May 25-26th, 2021. For more information, visit Megaphono’s website here.

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ANYTHING CAN’T HAPPEN

Out May 7, 2021 via Telephone Explosion Records

1. One
2. Anything Can't Happen
3. Container
4. Closer to Mine
5. Interlude
6. Waves Rising
7. Perfect Love
8. Frozen Window
9. Running Under My Life

Mixed by Maximilian “Twig” Turnbull, Steve Chahley
Mastered by Heather Kirby, Dreamlands Mastering
All art and lettering by Vida Beyer
Design and layout by Steve Sidoli, Dorothea Paas

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In Conversation: Carlyn Bezic Talks Taking Up Space On and Offline with New Project Jane Inc

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Jane Inc by Andrew McGill

What role do you play in today’s social media rat-race? Are you an observer (always monitoring, never posting); a creator (sharing content related to you and your interests); a critic (engaging with and commenting on said content), or; a luddite, in the sense that you’re disenchanted altogether and logged off (and out) forever? Whatever your involvement in whichever form of feed Discourse™, one’s stance on social media translates as a fraction of the self — sometimes, in more ways than one — across online spaces. These curated extensions of the self are of particular interest to Toronto musician Carlyn Bezic, and are given centre-stage in her new solo project, Jane Inc. 

Known for her involvement in acts like Ice Cream, Darlene Shrugg and as a touring member of US Girls, Bezic realizes years worth of side-gigged musical experimentation as Jane Inc. Building off samples, break-beats and Ableton tutorials, Jane Inc’s debut Number One is out on Telephone Explosion Records March 19th, and serves as a reminder that Bezic is no one-trick-pony. 

What started as layering bass, guitar, synth, and vocals on top of drum breaks and samples has now transformed into the dance-machine that is Jane Inc, with Bezic as its ring-leader. With the help of recruited support from Toronto recording engineer and stalwart Steve Chahley (Badge Epoque Ensemble, US Girls, Ben Stevenson) to coproduce, the duo recorded live drums performed by Evan J. Cartwright (US Girls, Tasseomancy), saxophone by Nick Dourado (BUDi Band, Aquakultre, Fiver) and wurlitzer by Scott Harwood (Scott Hardware) to marry Bezic’s hypnotic, cyber reveries and glittering grooves.

Leading up to her release, I got the chance to chat with Bezic on taking the reins with her latest musical venture, and how she dissects the tensions between the self and the ills of today’s digital climate on her anticipated release Number One.

To open our conversation, Bezic tells me about the origin of Jane Inc, which she explains was inspired by stringing together a myriad of concepts. “The name was born out of a few things. My middle name is Jane, so it’s kind of about me in a way. But, I also liked Jane as in, Jane Doe… Someone who is a blank ‘woman’ figure. ‘Inc’ also plays on my approach to the writing and recording process, where I thought of [the project] as my own little company where I’m playing a bunch of different roles, you know?” 

Bezic elaborates on the shapeshifting quality of Jane Inc, asserting that it’s personified more as an artistic mindset, rather than a traditional alter-ego. “[Jane Inc] is like a mental trick. It was helpful for me to view, say, a baseline as something other than a direct reflection of me — Carlyn, as a human being — that supposedly expresses to you exactly who I am. This framework was informed by an explicit exploration of how what you do online creates a new being removed from reality — which can be both liberating and also terrifying.” 

From here, our conversation shifts onto the topic of how artists in particular struggle to exist, both in relation to survival and relevancy, without having some kind of online presence. Noticing Bezic comments on this in her songwriting, I ask her how she navigates the difficult position of wanting to be critical of this phenomenon, while also having to be complicit in it. 

Sighing in a way that feels relatable, despite the lag of our Zoom call, Bezic states: “I mean, I find it to be a real mind-fuck.” 

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Jane Inc by Andrew McGill

“The way I personally engage with the Internet isn’t very healthy, I think. I’m 100% addicted to the Internet, even though I know it’s really insidious. I’ve been experimenting with posting more and showing myself, which feels strange and disingenuous because our engagement habits are so intrinsic to our perceived empowerment. When this is tied to the thing you’re creating… it becomes even more complicated. [My music] isn’t then just an extension of who I am as a person, but also a product, and I become its advertisement — even though I’m just a human being. It’s inescapable because it is so essential for my job, and I’d rather have some control over how I am perceived by handling my social media presence myself.” Continuing on this notion of how she remains purposeful in navigating the maze of social media, Bezic comments: 

“Intentionally taking up online space represents a growth for me. I’m trying to be more comfortable sharing [my music] and being myself, and it feels similar to what it would be like in real life and during a performance. That being said, when I think about it deeply, this comes at the expense of commodifying myself and the art that I’m making. So, like I said, it really is a necessary beast.” 

Through listening to her teaser tracks from Number One, I noticed Bezic’s lyrics air her frustrations with the physical world in parallel with her commentary on social media. Her single “Steel” struck me as an observation on how identity is manufactured by our physical surroundings; through mundane, daily activities. I was curious to know if the sentiment I was picking up on was informed by Bezic’s experiences with the fast-paced rhythm of Toronto.

“Toronto is a city that hates creative people. We are also seeing in a really real and horrifying way how it also hates low-income people, unhoused people and racialized people. [‘Steel’] was born out of a very complicated relationship I have with Toronto, as I grew up here and have lived here the majority of my life. Though Toronto has a very strong [arts] community and is full of creative people, its bureaucratic, big city energy doesn’t allow for any sustainability. It hates itself. Even before the pandemic, I felt like I had no energy. The city was never giving me energy. Everyone is working to live, or living to work, the places [we] love are closing down and rents are skyrocketing. You know, the same old story as everywhere else. The opportunity keeps on getting smaller and smaller,” Bezic laments. 

Bezic’s outlook took an upward turn towards the end of our interview, where she told me about looking ahead and her plans for the future. 

“Though I complain that Toronto sucks, there are a lot of musicians here who really inspire me and push me forward. I am excited, and feel lucky to have collaborated with them [on this record]. I’m looking forward to eventually having a band at some point and figuring out a nice little setup for doing livestreams or something lowkey. Other than that, I’m already writing the next album, which I’m hoping to release in the next year.” 

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Jane Inc by Andrew McGill

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NUMBER ONE

Out via Telephone Explosion Records on March 19, 2021

1. Gem
2. Steel
3. Faceless, Bodiless
4. Dirt and The Earth
5. Bloom Becomes Me
6. My Oldest Friend
7. His, Mine
8. Obliterated

All songs written and performed by Carlyn Bezic

Drums and Vermona by Evan J. Cartwright
Saxophone on "Bloom Becomes Me" by Nick Dourado
Wurlitzer on "Faceless, Bodiless" by Scott Hardware
Mixed by Steve Chahley and Anthony Nemet
Produced by Steve Chahley and Carlyn Bezic
Toronto, 2020

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Jane Inc

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Zoë Argiropulos-Hunter (she/her) is the co-founder and managing editor of Also Cool Mag. Aside from the mag, she is a music promoter & booker, and a radio host & DJ.

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